Comments on Biblical Beginnings.: There's a Change in the Wind, Says I.

The true and living God. If you don't like it,...

2012-01-11T18:03:42.112-08:00

The true and living God. If you don't like it, then that's too bad for you.

You put words in my mouth. I can't swallow.

yep yep. I think it will go back to what it was be...

2012-01-08T21:44:40.275-08:00

yep yep. I think it will go back to what it was before exactly. Ever read that "dr. Seuss" Old Hat/New Hat book? it's like that. :)

I also forgot about apprenticeships (like in colon...

2012-01-07T23:24:01.681-08:00

I also forgot about apprenticeships (like in colonial America). Though not technically called slavery, it seems like a form of it, since the apprentice is bound to the craftsman for x number of years.

It's still a little wide, but I don't think the post section needs to be any skinnier. It could be because of the sidebar (having 1 column, and then 2 below that) that it's wider.

There is also the slavery that comes from prisoner...

2012-01-07T22:54:30.787-08:00

There is also the slavery that comes from prisoners of war. Not sure how that applies though right now. Still studying it. How does the blog look now on your laptop?

I'm glad it was encouraging. This topic is ver...

2012-01-07T10:31:04.341-08:00

I'm glad it was encouraging. This topic is very interesting.

I guess my view is that you shouldn't try to have a slave, and I agree, that if you are free, then you shouldn't try to be a slave. (In the physical sense.)

However, in the spiritual realm, of course, you are already a slave - and you always will be a slave. You just have to choose your master.

The only sort of physical slavery I agree with is when someone becomes a bond servant to pay a debt. That sort of thing doesn't seem to be used nowadays, though.

Hi Carrie, thanks for the support, it has been giv...

2012-01-07T10:21:48.155-08:00

Hi Carrie, thanks for the support, it has been giving me great encouragement. It is definitely appreciated. I would not cast out entirely the idea of human slavery, as there is a form of slavery that is biblical.

I have been in quite a discussion with these people about it, and mainly my reasoning, although I have begun studying it more in depth, is that Paul gave instructions to slaves and masters, without condemning either. He also said if you are free you should not seek to be enslaved, and if you are enslaved you are to be content. More later

You are a slave to either one of two things: 1)sin...

2012-01-06T14:32:55.469-08:00

You are a slave to either one of two things: 1)sin/Satan or 2)God. There is no 3rd option.

Romans 6:16 "Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness?"

John 8:34 "Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin."

I looked up the word slave on dictionary.com, and the first definition is this: "a person who is the property of and wholly subject to another; a bond servant." This aptly describes what a Christian is - someone who is the property of God, and who is wholly subject to Him. Based on this description, I think it is definitely possible to choose to be a slave.

I find it interesting that some of the slaves who were freed after the War Between the States chose to stay on, serving their masters the same way they had before. They did it because they loved their masters, and their masters treated them right, like real people. (I, of course, do not agree with human slavery. Every person is an individual, not to be treated as someone else's property.)

I am, essentially, choose to be a servant/slave to God when I accept His gift of salvation. He loves me, and treats me like I matter. God wants us to be willing slaves, and He promises to be a just Master.

How can we expect to get salvation, but do nothing different in our lives? We must give up a certain level of freedom - freedom to indulge in lusts and sins, the freedom to act however we want. When we claim to be saved, people look at us as representing Christ in a way. That's why we must be 'above reproach' - not 'holier than thou', but just living in such a way that no one has justification for accusation. In addition, "So then each one of us will give an account of himself to God." (Romans 14:12) It costs you something, and in essence, your relationship with God rules your life - HE rules your life.

Just my take on it in light of the Bible.

Josiah, the blog is a little wider, to where I have to scroll to the side to see the whole thing. (But that's on my teeny laptop. If I was on our big computer, it'd probably be fine.)

Just googled it, looks like servant is a bad trans...

2012-01-06T10:38:01.109-08:00

Just googled it, looks like servant is a bad translations. You should have used a translation that made it more clear. Not all of us have studied Greek. But to be honest, what sort of God do you serve that He has to force people to serve Him, He doesn't want them to choose? He wants slaves, not people who willingly serve Him.

And I guess this is why you would be okay with my ancestors still being slaves. And why you admire a guy who thinks that they were wrong for escaping on the underground rail road.

Myra

the original text reads δουλος. What can you tell ...

2012-01-06T08:10:35.920-08:00

the original text reads δουλος. What can you tell me about that word?

There is a huge difference between a servant and a...

2012-01-06T06:32:33.640-08:00

There is a huge difference between a servant and a slave. Paul was saying he was servant of God not a slave. A servant can choose to serve or not serve someone. He was saying he chose to serve God, not that he was forced into it with no other choice. A slave cannot choose to serve or not serve someone. They are forced to, often against their will. So that verse isn't saying what you are saying it is saying.

Myra who is also xmasgirl